Original CD OR Scene Mp3?

[MiroFa]

which better get the Original cd or Scene MP3?

I Prefer Both the original cd for the booklet and the images and quality

the Mp3 for speed listen in digital uses

best site for buying original cd is Amazon

[Talim_]

Original CD is almost always better. Most of the scene mp3s are obsolete artifacts that are fun to collect and analyze. Ripped and encoded using software and techniques that have long since been surpassed. That's what's so great about scene FLAC. It gives you a chance to get scene releases of albums that were ripped as mp3 long ago but in much higher quality. But at the height of the scene I'd say 2000-2004 there was so much activity meaning there was so much rare music ripped. It's hard to find a lot of it even if you spend time and money. Many releases you won't even find for sale on discogs.

[kasten]

I prefer vinyl, always.
As they are very expensive and I can't buy them very often, I prefer the audio from the scene, if I can't find it on vinyl or CD, I keep the digital audio.

[ElevationOP8]

I prefer vinyl, always.
As they are very expensive and I can't buy them very often, I prefer the audio from the scene, if I can't find it on vinyl or CD, I keep the digital audio.

Not sure exactly, but I think vinyl keeps better than any other media used for music? I'm fairly sure this applies also to EDM genres similarly as it does to old fashioned music that was recorded onto vinyl, the same as phonograph records etc.

For that reason, vinyl is a collectors item, as it ages the best, despite modern tech 'almost' making them obsolete, but atleast much of the music prior to the 80's is still valued in vinyl, because there is so many repeat releases, remasterings and greatest hit compliation releases on CD that make CD stuff IMO not as good.

Preference is mighty and people will always reflect different values but I find CD a useful media for travel, ripping, sharing, and all of that, but nothing better for me than holding on to a 12" even if it has the downside of taking up more space as a collector.

But There is a difference to releasing old music on vinyl again, or even worse, if it wasn't released on vinyl and then was released again as 12" record, or something like that. Imagine any new digital release today was to do well, and in say 10 years, if the vinyl has a new appreciation again, that release was to be re-releaseed in vinyl format - how crap would that be?

Vinyl is the best when it is first released as a record, then perhaps have whatever alternative formats for those who use it in different ways. That's why they award artists that chart with a silver or gold plated record of the single to keep.

[ElevationOP8]

which better get the Original cd or Scene MP3?

I Prefer Both the original cd for the booklet and the images and quality

the Mp3 for speed listen in digital uses

best site for buying original cd is Amazon

Original CD is almost always better. Most of the scene mp3s are obsolete artifacts that are fun to collect and analyze. Ripped and encoded using software and techniques that have long since been surpassed. That's what's so great about scene FLAC. It gives you a chance to get scene releases of albums that were ripped as mp3 long ago but in much higher quality. But at the height of the scene I'd say 2000-2004 there was so much activity meaning there was so much rare music ripped. It's hard to find a lot of it even if you spend time and money. Many releases you won't even find for sale on discogs.

Aside from my own interests in the media of use that follows my preferences, this topic is CD vs the Mp3's - I'd agree with Talim, CD has got to be the way to go if chosing between these. Scene releases were cool back in the day as they were usually much better than non scene releases of the same were. Today, it is not as simple to say the same, although scene is still at a high standard (especially WEB releases) as they essentially replicate the digital store qualities by the fact they are digital store releases. Again, owning a CD is much more fun, however comparing scene CD releases and WEB releases, the CD(-M-R-S) still uses the settings it has stuck to from the start, no CBR 320kbs which is exclusive to WEB. So from that I'd say that the 0-day >202x stuff is best in WEB if there is, otherwise CD releases are very good if it is not on digital stores.

The best part about CD releases is that they release PROMOs, WEB does not (atleast it is not marked as promo). That's always cool.

[yekk10]

Ripped and encoded using software and techniques that have long since been surpassed. That's what's so great about scene FLAC. It gives you a chance to get scene releases of albums that were ripped as mp3 long ago but in much higher quality.

I would not share a so clear-cut opinion. MP3 codec standard is 20 years old but it is still very relevant for stereo (and patent free now).
As we all know this is not true at all for video codec (MPEG-4 and variants, H.264, H.265 and H.266 soon) which have evolved a lot.

Remenber that there are two parts:
* The ISO standard (norms) describing the expoected format itself
* Vendors implementation (software and/or hardware) meeting above standard requirements

Sure that implementations improved over the years but perceived quality is very good for years (even at 192kpbs for most music genre).
Unless you listen to classical music you won't make any difference compared to a CD.

For FLAC, I think that you need high-end audio equipment to have benefits. I've read that adult's ears could not hear those high frequencies at all.
As a listenner I consider FLAC as overquality (and too heavy).

[ElevationOP8]

For FLAC, I think that you need high-end audio equipment to have benefits. I've read that adult's ears could not hear those high frequencies at all.
As a listenner I consider FLAC as overquality (and too heavy).

As a listener, I'd consider you're right, but beyond - lossless quality provides the benefits of burning CD's in much of the same quality as to the source. This includes db volume which makes the boom boom in the speakers go harder, and can be something detected in software applications, if that's something you're about. If the quality is higher, the application is more vast. However you might then say: "why not buy the actual CD?" Then to hear: "why are you buying something you are not hearing the difference to?" Music can be used for more than just listening to, and considering that the day has passed where music hits our ears only for the purpose of enjoying it, and scene provides a recognised standards for all sorts of media shared, including music, movies, games, books, porn, etc. It only follows that lossless also has a standard which are used for those who are after that quality, but also importantly... digital retailers of music provide a lossless option for releases, and that means FLAC/WAV is being shared online - which makes sense why there is a scene specifically related to this.

[Talim_]

I don't disagree with most of what yekk10 said but I think I was trying to make a different point. The older scene releases used inferior encoders (the best that were around back then) and CBR. Many of those rips were made before use of EAC was widespread. Having lossless files isn't about being able to hear the full range of frequencies. It's about having archival quality material that gives you the option to encode your lossy files whatever way you want. For the average person v0 LAME encodes are perfect. You could probably get transparency with v2 but filesize is no longer a premium so nobody really cares anymore . For popular music that is easy to find I think making your own new v0 LAME encode is better than listening to something somebody ripped on Windows 98 and encoded at 192 with a pirated fraunhofer encoder. Not to say the old encodes aren't fun to collect and listen to either. I collect them myself obviously but they aren't what I put on my phone for everyday listening.

[MiroFa]

Thank You very much. we nead a thread for How To Rip a cd in V0 Eac

[Talim_]

Thank You very much. we nead a thread for How To Rip a cd in V0 Eac

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