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24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:23 am
by yekk10
Hi there,
Just reacting to the multiple OBZEN requests here... Those releases are so huge...
Is it worth it
Seems to me marketing bullshit, especially for old band/arstists..
If somebody can provide two tracks to hear the difference, that would be great.
Feel free to share your opinion here
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:49 am
by aGGyunit
It's just a gimmick in my opinion.
Without proper audio equipment you most likely won't hear much (if any) difference compared to a normal 16bit FLAC version.
I do not collect those 24bit releases as they are stupidly large (neither will I fill those type of reqs).
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:48 pm
by the_argentinian
No, it's not a gimmick. And insinuating old recordings sound worse than modern releases is just ignorant.
You just need audiophile equipment to hear the difference. Do you know what that word means?
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:05 am
by aGGyunit
the_argentinian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:48 pm
No, it's not a gimmick. And insinuating old recordings sound worse than modern releases is just ignorant.
You just need audiophile equipment to hear the difference. Do you know what that word means?
Did you even read my post?
It's just a gimmick
in my opinion. <- My opinion, everyone has one.
Without proper audio equipment you most likely won't hear much (if any) difference compared to a normal 16bit FLAC version. <- I mention "audiophile" equipment right there and if you do not have it you will struggle to hear the difference.
Nowhere did I say old recordings are worse than modern releases ...
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:14 am
by ozziguy
I don't collect OBZEN either. Too big and pointless imo. I can hear just fine
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:10 pm
by yekk10
I can understand the need of extra quality for mastering stage, but for us, end-user, 16 bit 48kHz seems fine.
According to:
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- Musical instruments produce sound within the range of 40 Hz to about 16 KHz
- Human hearing tends to drop off sharply somewhere between 16 and 20 KHz, usually toward the low end of that range
- Human hearing sensitivity peaks at 1 or 2 KHz, and drops from there. Children and young people under 20 years old can't hear above about 20 KHz at all, and this upper limit decreases with age.
And I don't know what is proper audio equipment... How the audio equipment receives the flac data.
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:33 pm
by the_argentinian
aGGyunit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:05 am
the_argentinian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:48 pm
No, it's not a gimmick. And insinuating old recordings sound worse than modern releases is just ignorant.
You just need audiophile equipment to hear the difference. Do you know what that word means?
Did you even read my post?
It's just a gimmick
in my opinion. <- My opinion, everyone has one.
Without proper audio equipment you most likely won't hear much (if any) difference compared to a normal 16bit FLAC version. <- I mention "audiophile" equipment right there and if you do not have it you will struggle to hear the difference.
Nowhere did I say old recordings are worse than modern releases ...
I was replying to OP. He made those comments except the gimmick one. It seems like he never heard of audiophile gear. DAC, pre-amp, amp, high-end speakers, thousands of dollars cables, master clock, headphones worth more than a PC, etc...
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:00 am
by ozziguy
"thousands of dollars cables"
hahaha reminds me of those expensive hdmi monster cables. When people found out they are a gimmick they disappeared real quick
Re: 24 bit & 96 kHz FLAC
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:37 am
by aGGyunit
Ok I understand now.
Apologies.
Expensive cables, some are a scam (like gold plated HDMI/USB) .. but good quality audio cable can indeed be very expensive.