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RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:07 am
by ElevationOP8
According to dated Predb sources this release (if it is considered still) is something that exists on record.
The title of the release in full is Green_Screen-Destination_Hell-RETAIL-VLS-2001-2DB

I remember this being listed, and I could be wrong but I may have even remembered this on srrdb.com earlier – but if you search for it there, it's non existent.
To give a clue about what I mean...
e.g. [External Link Removed for Guests] / [External Link Removed for Guests] / [External Link Removed for Guests]

On these you can read it was entered from Nov. 14th 2001 from group 2DB.

Going to ask you guys first before posting a request as some of you might be able to fill me in about this one.

Re: RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:37 am
by Hunter
I have this rls, but probably like everyone else without small files and no way to verify that the files haven't been modified.

Re: RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:47 am
by ElevationOP8
Would you consider it worthy for me if I make a request for it? I guess it is a proper release still but with it being not comparable it is hard to say.

Re: RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:25 pm
by Hunter
Check it out yourself. In my opinion, mp3 files themselves may be original, but they're most likely retaged.

[External Link Removed for Guests]

This also explains why, if indeed this rls was on srrdb, it was removed from there.


PS. There is another rls yet: Green_Screen_-_Destination_Hell-Promo-Vinyl-2001-HS - but also not available, at least for now.

Re: RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:48 pm
by T87.Rave
these are totally different names and crc

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a1_green_screen-destination_hell-2db.mp3 ac6609f3
b1_green_screen-the_last_transmission-2db.mp3 47255de0
b2_green_screen-columbian_heroes-2db.mp3 183b827b
.sfv file shows crc

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01_green_screen-destination_hell_retail_2db.mp3 16a2b98e
02_green_screen-the_last_transmission_retail_2db.mp3 bbfa7464
03_green_screen-columbian_heroes_retail_2db.mp3 2c75776f
.nfo ....

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ÇÄ{Artist  : Green Screen              }Å{Release date: 11-14-2001          }Ķ
ÇÄ{Title   : Destination Hell          }Å{Source      : RETAIL              }Ķ
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ÇÄ{01# Green Screen-Destination Hell                                   09:41}Ķ
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Re: RLS ID: 2DB Destination Hell Yeti Rec 2001

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:30 am
by ElevationOP8
Yes, sounds like there was with no doubt a release appearing on srrdb, but owning to the fact there is many different crc validations apparent, and no way of confirming whether any of them are original untagged; the proper nature of it hasn't been established so in the interest of keeping srrdb a source of official files, they either hid it from view or took it down to save the issue. They could have had this same discussion there too and removed it for lack of credibility.

Thanks for "your version" Hunter, and thanks T87.Rave for the checks.
Looking at the titles, comparing them to other 2DB releases of that time, they wouldn't have I'm sure released it with "a1, b1, etc." The problem with the second is the end of the title wouldn't have used "_2db." It most of likely should've been a combination of both - where the start of code#2 is used and the end of code#1 - this also doesn't correspond to the tag, and therefore the crc32 wouldn't change - unless the actual tag itself is different.
The thing is the tag on one of those could be correct but the release didn't follow some sort of rule or order and was removed from showing on some other grounds?

Somewhat annoying that the only one that exists is a dubious winamp edited version or some web-link added tag, which are the usual culprits of this.